Our president, Gary Vogel had the chance to be on the The Birth Ease Podcast to discuss helping endure infant loss. Gary Vogel, is a LMHC perinatal grief expert and founder of HEAL, a Central Florida support group for bereaved parents.

In the podcast episode, Michelle and Gary discuss how the loss of a child disrupts our perception of the natural order of things, what grief is and isn’t, and the 3 tasks of grieving. 

Thank you to Michelle Smith for having Gary on her podcast check out more about her show at BirthEaseServices.com